new to slk and sharepoint 3

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Jun 13, 2007 at 9:41 PM
forgive the basic nature of my questions. we use class server 4 and sharepoint 2. i have installed SP 3 and slk on another server and am starting to play with it. my main questions:

how do i import the student/teacher/class info - there is a little utility in cs4

how do i create learning resouces and online quizzes

how do the teachers create their class sites?

i have gone through the getting started guide, but it only shows a few basics - is there a better tutorial around so we can get up and running.

thanks

bj daniels
Jun 14, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Hi,

SLK works very different to CS3/4 as it takes the user base straight from AD, you need to group your AD appropriately to ensure best practice. There are 3rd party tools we are using with our schools which automate this function and reads directly from your MIS systems to update AD and SLK to vastly reduce your admin time.

SLK is not an authoring tool, it is an distribution mechanism! therefore it is not a direct replacement for CS, MS have Grava in BETA which will be an authoring tool, you can also use learning essentials as well as any SCORM2004 compliant software for imorting and automarking.

Teachers have to have a team site for every class they have, again this can be automated or scripted.

MOSS2007 is huge and you really should get a specialist consultant in.
We have deployed around 12 MOSS2007 sites since April under the MLG bracket and are currently undergoing LEA wide MOSS2007 implementations.

If you wanted to talk about this more email me jtassi@teksys.co.uk
Jun 14, 2007 at 6:51 PM
what 3rd party tools can help make the AD groups? We use Blackbaud for our student information system.

thanks
Jun 14, 2007 at 8:29 PM
danielsb,

I'm anxious to hear some of the answers that you get because I have some of the same questions for our implementation. I am also new to SharePoint and the SLK.

In regards to your question: how do I import the student/teacher/class info - there is a little utility in cs4, this is also one that I have been working on. So far I have imported all of our classes in to a list (not a document library) by exporting a list from our SQL tables in to an excel file. Once you have your list of courses in excel then you can simply copy and paste them in to the list. You must first have the list in datasheet mode. You can get the list in datasheet mode by clicking Actions -> Edit in Datasheet at the top of your list.

Along with the SLK there are also two templates available @ http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/sharepoint/wssapps/templates/default.mspx . The two templates that are learning management related are called 'Classroom Management' and 'Employee Training Scheduling and Materials'. I imported our courses in to the list supplied by the employee training template.

This may not help much if you have documents associated with all of your classes, but maybe it will help get you started. If you find a good way to do this in a document library then please let me know.
Jun 14, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Actually it looks like a document library works the same way. I don't know why but I couldn't get the document library to work earleir. The document library even gives you some cool features to browse fo the folder to upload multiple documents at the same time. Go to your document library and select the drop down by upload and then select Upload Multiple Documents. When you select the option to upload multiple documents at the same time It looks a lot like windows explorer.

The document library has an option to 'Edit in Datasheet' under the actioins menu, but I haven't messed with that yet in a document library.

Jun 16, 2007 at 7:53 PM
i am not certain why you would want them in a list in sharepoint. Perhaps i am missing something. i have played around some more and looked at learning essentials - pretty cool stuff. Now i have a couple of questions.

1. if i assign a shared document, how does the user change the document (put in answers) or attach a document (like an essay or lab report) that the teacher can grade.

2. i played with learning essentials, but cannot see how to make autograded quiz or quiz that can be taken online (with checkboxes and such).

3. is there a easy way for a student and teacher to work on a document - like multiple drafts of an essay?

As for bringing in my classes - i will write a script that can create a group for each class (reading from a DB) and populate the groups. I can then likely write a script to pre-create sharepoint sites with proper permissions.

thanks
Jun 17, 2007 at 7:02 PM
1. For user, group and site provisioning either use stadmin or a program in the SLK SDK called Provision from Excel a C# uncompiled program with an example shreadsheet

2. In terms of content creation. The learning essentials produces essentially, read only content at the moment. Thesis are working on a read write SLK version. Microsoft's offering Grava is in Beta and will be available soon.

3. For site templates wait for the Microsoft Learning Gateway refresh for 2007
Coordinator
Jun 18, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Hi,

I have just released a new product which will automatically populate SharePoint and SLK from an MIS system. For example it will create all the sites for the classes and populate the proper permissions for teachers and pupils. It will then keep SharePoint synchronised with your MIS so that as changes occur in the MIS they will automatically be reflected in SharePoint.

If you want more information then have a look at my website
http://www.salamandersoft.co.uk
or email me at richardwillis@salamandersoft.co.uk

Richard
Jun 18, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Our classes are probably a little different from most SLK installations. We have courses set up for a business (not a school) where completion of some courses every couple of years is required to stay up to date on certifications. Most classes will not be managed through a class site and may not have documents associated with the course. Also, most classes last only hours or days and may be on or off site.

Putting all classes in a list will be the way that we display all available courses to the students. Why wouldn't you want to put all courses in a list? Even if you manage or teach in a school/university type environment then wouldn't you still want to have a list of courses to choose from? I can remember getting to pick courses that I wanted to take in high school. If you are teaching first through eighth grade then maybe you don't get a choice on what classes to take.

I ask because I am new to both SharePoint and the SLK. Maybe there is a better way to do it than the way I was planning on doing it.

Thanks,
Jun 19, 2007 at 6:04 PM
now i see why you need the list - makes sense. we don't really need it in sharepoint - we are a high school and there are other places where students see and choose their classes.

is there any way to install the Class Server - Teacher application differently so it works as a local IMS content creator?

I guess i will look at this grava software and check it out.

thanks